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Thomas Goble

 

Born: 02 Jan 1590, Westergate, England
Died:  29 Dec 1657, Concord, Mass

 
 

Information by Evelyn Goble Steen
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~goble/homepage/thomas/tom.htm

                             

Thomas Goble was born 02 Jan 1590 in the village of Westergate, near Aldingbourne, West Sussex, England, the son of William Goble.

                             

Previous genealogical studies have suggested that Thomas' wife, Alice, was Alice Mousal, the daughter of Ralph & Alice Mousal. According to newly discovered marriage records, it is believed Alice's surname was Brookman.

                             

Thomas Goble and Alice Brookman were married at Aldingbourne, West Sussex, England, on 05 Nov 1619.

                             

Thomas, with his wife Alice, and son John, who was about 3 or 4-years-old at the time, paid for passage on one of the many ships (probably the Abigail, Hopewell or Lion) headed for "the colonies" and migrated to America in 1633 or early 1634.  They settled in Charletown, Massachusetts.  Either in route or shortly after arriving in the colonies, Alice gave birth to their second child, a daughter, Elizabeth, in 1634.

                             

Thomas and Alice were admitted to the first Church of Charleston, Massachusetts, on 30 Aug 1634.  Thomas received his papers as a freeman on 03 Sep 1634 (at the General Court) and was granted four acres "planting ground on Newton Line" the same year.  To become a freeman meant to be granted citizenship and freedom to live in a city or borough.

                             
By 1638 Thomas owned 5 lots in or near Charleston:
  1.  House and 1/2 acre at west end of Common
2.  4 acres Linefield Southwest Cambridge line
3.  2 3/4 acres Cow Commons; 3/4 sold to W. Baker in 1654
4.  15 acres Woods
5.  50 acrews Waterfield
 

By 1638 Thomas had not only amassed sizable land holdings but had increased his family by three additional children.

 
List of Thomas Goble & Alice Brookman's children
Name Birth Date Death Date Spouse
John Goble 1629 1679  
Elizabeth Goble 1634 1668 John White
Thomas Goble II 1634 22 Nov 1690  
Mary Goble 27 Feb 1636   Daniel Dean
Sarah Goble 27 Mar 1638 30 Nov 1717 John Shepherd
Daniel Goble 18 Jul 1641    
 

On 01 Oct 1640 Thomas Goble served on what is believed to have been the first jury ever to convene in Boston.  It found Hugh Buets guilty of heresy and that "his person and errors are dangerous for infection of others".  The defendant was ordered "out of the jurisdiction by the 24th psent, upon paine/pain of death and not to returne/return, upon paine/pain of being hanged."  The jury was granted 12s (shillings) for their services (presumably 1s each).  On 13 Dec 1653 "goodman Goobell" paid 1 pound, 16 shillings "in Indian" (corn) for tuition and fees to Harvard College.  This was followed by a similar payment on 15 Jan 1654 or 1 pound in "wheatt/wheat and Indian"; and a payment on 08 Dec 1655 by "old Gobbell" of 1 pound, 14 shillings and 6"d", 17 shillings "in wheatt/wheat" and 7 shillings, 6 "d" "by Indian."  The index of the Records of Court of Assistants of the Colony of Massachusetts Bay, Volume 2, identifies "goodman Goobell" and "old Gobbell" as Thomas Goble.

 

Thomas had become a respected citizen of Charlestown.  He was a very wealthy man by the standards of the time and place, and consequently was probably important in local government.  Land was at a premium at the height of the Great Migration, and settlement s pushed out in all directions. Before moving his family to Concord, thy had another child, Daniel Goble.  Daniel was hanged for murderin 1676.

 
Thomas acquired a large farm near Concord, which upon his death on 29 Dec 1657 in Concord, Massachusetts, went to his son, Thomas II.  The farm remained in the Goble family for many years, as it was described in several deeds as "the land known as Goble's farm."  The old house was still standing as late as 1904, and the farm could be located at the edge of "Walden Woods" on the road leading west from Lincoln Village near Concord, "the land known as Goble's farm."  

 

This photograph of the farmhouse of Thomas Goble was copied from Concord, A Climate for Freedom, by Ruth R. Wheeler, 1967.  This book contained photographs of many of the homes of early Concord residences.  She says of this house, "Goble farm house, later owned by Farrar, near the old Sudbury Bound, on Wayland Road, Lincoln."  Thomas Goble became one of the major investors and landholders of Concord.  The old house and farm could be located on the road leading west from Lincoln Village near Concord.

 

Thomas' will was signed by him "the 30th day of the 9th month, 1657" (30 Nov 1657) and probated 29 Dec 1657.  Alice was still living at the time of Thomas' death, as she was mentioned in his will - "I give and bequeath to Alice my wife fair profit on all my stock so long as she liveth a widow...".  The inventory taken of Thomas' estate listed some items which were only owned by the very wealthy, i.e.: "one featherbed, two feather pillows & wool blankets, one small featherbed, two bolsters, two blankets, and one trundle bed, 40 pounds of paraffin, two iron pots."  Bedding and linens were a mark of wealth, most people didn't have them.  Paraffin would have been for candles of the highest quality, a real luxury item.  Iron pots were manufactured items imported from England.  Additionally, the mere fact that Thomas Goble could write his own inventory to the will and sign his name put him in a special class.  Literacy was higher in New England than elsewhere because of the Puritan emphasis on reading the Bible, but still those who could both read and write were in a minority.

 

Sources:
Banks Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England 1620-1650-GPC 1963.
Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England, Vol. 1, 1628-1641; pages 117, 312, 369.
History of Charlestown, page 411.
Wyman's Estates of Charlestown, Mass Vol. II page 411.
Records of Court of Assistants of the Colony of Mass Bay, 1630-1692, Vol. 2, 1904, page 101.
History of the Town of Concord, by Lemuel Shattuck, 1835, page 372.
Concord, a Climate for Freedom", by Ruth R. Wheeler, 1967.

 

Thomas Goble (1590-1657) of West Sussex, England,  Part 2

by Terence T. Quirke, PhD, CG
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~goble/homepage/thomas/quirke.htm

 

Civil Registration of births, marriages and deaths did not start in England until 1837. Prior to that time the most reliable source of such data is to be found in Church of England (C of E) parish registers. In some parishes such records began to be kept as early as the mid-1500s. Until about 1750 most of these records were written in Latin.

 

There is an index to Sussex marriages ,which can be accessed by the name of the groom and/or bride, +/- actual or approximate date of marriage. I requested information about the marriage of Thomas GOBLE and Alice MOUSALL, probably at least by 1630 since when they arrived in North America in 1633 or early 1634 they had a son who was said to have been about three or four years old.

 

The reply I received was: 5 November 1619, Thomas GOBLE and Alice BROOKMAN at Aldingbourne, West Sussex. See Map #1 and Map #2.

 

    

 

This is several years earlier than expected and the last name of the bride is different than that previously published in North American genealogies. Thomas is reported to have died in December 1657, with no age at death given . If he had been 20 at the time he married (i.e., b. 1599) he would have been 58 at death, not an impossible age, even in those years.

 

In examining several pertinent early New England genealogical references, it is seen that many do not state Alice's maiden name, leave it blank, or state that she was "perhaps daughter of Ralph MOUSALL" without citing any source of that supposition. In fact, Dorothy Hand DYMOND after reviewing various family relationships and relative ages in previous works, states, "Thus, Mousall cannot be considered the maiden name of Thomas (1) Goble's wife."

 

The result is that a marriage of one Thomas GOBLE and an Alice somebody took place in the right place at about the right time and three of the 'known' names out of four are as anticipated. On this basis and with the aforementioned uncertainties in mind, it is believed at this time that the marriage record found in Aldingbourne of Thomas GOBLE and Alice BROOKMAN is that of the couple that arrived in Charlestown, Massachusetts in late 1633 or early 1634, pending information to the contrary. (See below, a copy from the microfilm of the original entry in the parish record.)

 

 

A search in transcripts of the Aldingbourne parish records was made for baptisms of Thomas GOBLE, Alice BROOKMAN and their son John said to have been born about 1629. Thomas and Alice probably immigrated to North America in search of "religious freedom" as many of their contemporaries were reported to have done. From this one can suppose that in England they were opposed to or, at least, unhappy with the state Church of England. They were thus, 'dissenters' or 'non-conformists'. This is further indicated by the fact that they were admitted to the First Church of Charleston soon after their arrival . In England at this time for a marriage to be legal and recognized it had to be performed in and by the C of E, which explains the record reported above, but non-conformists usually did not have their children baptized or buried from the C of E. In fact, baptism in some sects was not performed until one was an adult. With this knowledge it is not surprising that no baptism of a John GOBLE was found between 1600 and 1650. However, Thomas's parents may have been more traditional since there is a record as follows : "2 Jan 1590 (1591) Thomas filius Willmi GOBLE de Westergate." Westergate is a village within a mile of Aldingbourne. This would make Thomas 29 at the time of his marriage and 67 at death. Neither age is impossible, the age at death being the least credible. (See below, a copy from the microfilm of the original entry in the parish record.)

 

 

There is no record in Aldingbourne of the marriage of a William GOBLE going back to the first entry in the parish records on 30 October 1558. On 1 May 1593 a burial of "Willmus GOBLE de Westergate" is recorded . There is no record of a baptism of Alice BROOKMAN in the Aldingbourne parish register. Neither is there any record of the burials of Thomas, John or Alice GOBLE that might indicate that the people recorded remained in the area until death and thus could not be the people in Massachusetts. However, this is not necessarily substantive since as stated above, non-conformists probably would not have been buried from the C of E, anyway.

 

In a cursory examination of the I.G.I. the surnames BROOKMAN, MOWSELL/MOUSALL and GOBLE were seen to occur in some of the adjacent or nearby parishes. It may be that the antecedents of the couple who came to North America can be identified with greater confidence in another parish. Meanwhile, a search for early GOBLE wills will be made with the anticipation that other significant family relationships and localities may be identified.

 

Sources:

  • Sussex marriages may be accessed by writing Mr. F. L. Leeson F.S.G., 108 Sea Lane, Ferring, West Sussex BN12 5HB, Unitied Kingdom. Members of the Sussex Family History Group may have one marriage checked free on each application if membership number is included. Additional marriages at £1.00 each if in the same letter. Amateur non-members @ £2.00 each; professionals, regardless of membership or lack thereof, £3.00 and £2.00. SASE must be included, or 2 IRCs, in all cases.
  • Wyman, Thomas Bellows, The Genealogies & Estates of Charlestown (1629-1818), 1879, David Clapp & Co., reprinted 1991, Bowie, Maryland, Heritage Books, Inc., p. 411 (subsequently as Wyman, T.B., 1879).
  • Goble, George W., The Goble Family, 1952, published privately, p. 4. See also LDS film, reel 0000825 (subsequently as Goble, G.W., 1952).
  • Pope, Charles Henry, The Pioneers of Massachusetts, A Descriptive List, 1965, p. 189 (subsequently as Pope, C.H., 1965).
  • Savage, James, A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England, Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692 on the Basis of Farmer's Register, reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1965, vol. II, p. 264 (subsequently as Savage, J., 1965).
  • Dymond, Dorothy Hand, The Genealogy of the HAND Family And Related Families, 1982, Baltimore, Gateway Press, p. 188.
  • Parish church of Aldingbourne, Sussex; marriages 1558-1758, baptisms and burials 1558-1777; microfilm of manuscript transcribed from the original registers by W.H. CHALLEN; LDS film, reel 1364150, item 13 Parish Church of Aldingbourne, Sussex; parish registers 1558-1880; microfilm of original records in the (West) Sussex County Record Office; ref. 1/1/1/1; LDS film, reel 0918246
 
 
                             
                             
                             
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